Post Election Discussion - Are We Seeing God's Prophetic Will Being Fulfilled?


A 40-minute post-election podcast conversation between Pastor Jack Hibbs (Real Life with Jack Hibbs / Calvary Chapel Chino Hills) and Tony Perkins (Family Research Council president). It addresses the 2026 U.S. midterm election results from a conservative Christian perspective.

Core Context

The discussion responds to election outcomes that disappointed many of their listeners (Republicans/conservatives underperformed relative to expectations). Hibbs opens by rejecting emotional reactions—resignation, withdrawal from civic engagement, or claims that “it’s not God’s will to get involved.” He stresses that feelings are unreliable after the Fall and must be submitted to Scripture. He describes waking up discouraged the morning after the election, then reading 20 Bible passages that realigned his perspective: God remains sovereign, elections are ultimately His business, and believers have no permission to quit.

Key Points from the Conversation

  • God’s sovereignty vs. human responsibility: God is always in control (illustrated with Sodom and Gomorrah), but that does not mean every national outcome reflects alignment with His will or brings His blessing/protection. Perkins argues America is not currently in harmony with God on core issues.
  • Political analysis: Perkins criticizes aspects of Republican/Trump-era handling, including dilution of pro-life and traditional-marriage positions in the party platform, ongoing abortion-by-mail policies, and a containment (rather than elimination) approach to Iran. He attributes some losses to voter frustration with implementation and process more than pure ideology, plus lower conservative turnout. Hibbs notes California’s resistance even to prior national wins.
  • Prophetic angle: Hibbs links current events (especially tensions with Iran/Persia and Israel) to possible end-times patterns, referencing Ezekiel 38. He observes that America is not named in biblical prophecy and frames the moment as potentially another national “shaking” (comparable to COVID or BLM eras) that tests the Church. He is careful to present this as thoughtful speculation, not a formal prophetic declaration.
  • Call to believers: Both urge an eternal, multi-generational perspective rather than election-cycle thinking. Success is measured by faithfulness, influence for eternity, and ongoing engagement—not short-term political wins. They emphasize immersing in Scripture, prayer, continuing to “occupy until He comes,” shining as salt and light, and trusting God with results. Perkins shares his own 2002 Senate loss as an example of closed doors leading to other callings.

Overall Tone and Message

The conversation is sober and pastoral rather than purely political or celebratory. It acknowledges disappointment while rejecting despair, self-pity, or disengagement. The central exhortation is that Christians’ ultimate hope and citizenship are in Christ and heaven, not any election or administration. God’s will is being accomplished; the question for believers is whether they will remain faithful and aligned with Him amid the results.



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